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Post by runabout199 on Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:54 pm

affraid ok got this new bug. ran but was sluggish. had a oil leak at oil cooler. changed seals in that, valve covers leaked, changed them, while i had them off checked valve clearance, good there. set points and set timing now my car will not idle. it will start and run but wont idle. my bottom pulley has a dimple on the outer lip (towards the back of car) and a v notch to the right on the inner lip about 1/2 or so away. which one of these is tdc and do i need to set my timming at 7.5 btdc. im lost hehe please help. im going to bugeyed tomorrow and hopefully someone there can help me also. when i first got the car it idled fine. also changed plugs while i was in there car was sluggish on rev up when i first got it now the responce is alot better it just wont stay running.


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Post by type4revolution on Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:15 pm

Use v notch and check points make sure they open and close correctly. If you disturbed intake manifold or carb you might have agrivated a vacuum leak. Check spark plug wires and cap Could be so many things. Remove air cleaner and see if it will run that way. Also might be trash in carb and will need to be burped to clear passage ways
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Post by runabout199 on Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:40 am

type4revolution wrote:Use v notch and check points make sure they open and close correctly. If you disturbed intake manifold or carb you might have agrivated a vacuum leak. Check spark plug wires and cap  Could be so many things. Remove air cleaner and see if it will run that way. Also might be trash in carb and will need to be burped to clear passage ways
thanks got it running so far so good:)  for the bad the front end is shaking violently.. Sad  any clue on that.  i replaced the points and set them at the v notch thats what got her working also there is a stumble on acceleration may be time for a carb rebuild or new carb... whats the burping you speak of?
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Post by Bugman114 on Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:21 pm

Is it a super beetle or standard?

Do you have the preheat tube, or heat risers hooked up?
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Post by type4revolution on Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:59 pm

With motor shut off look down top of carb and pull throlle lever and see if fuel is sqirting  nicely into carb to make sure accelerator pump is working. correctly if ok then Carefully take a large rag in hand rev engine up and then choke down the carb with your hand till engine almost dies and let off and rev of It up again do several time till it clears up should be good if after 6 trys rebuild carb and see if there are any damaged or missing pieces. Most times carbs are destroyed by po thinking they know how it fix or rebuild a carb .
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Post by runabout199 on Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:16 pm

Bugman114 wrote:Is it a super beetle or standard?

Do you have the preheat tube, or heat risers hooked up?
 standard beetle or just beetle idk the difference i do know its not a super yes heat risers are hooked up
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Post by runabout199 on Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:18 pm

type4revolution wrote:With motor shut off look down top of carb and pull throlle lever and see if fuel is sqirting  nicely into carb to make sure accelerator pump is working. correctly if ok then Carefully take a large rag in hand rev engine up and then choke down the carb with your hand till engine almost dies and let off and rev of It up again do several time till it clears up should be good if after 6 trys rebuild carb and see if there are any damaged or missing pieces. Most times carbs are destroyed by po thinking they know how it fix or rebuild a carb .
i will give that a shot when i get home. thanks for the help. any way to eliminate all the cali. smog crap on this motor? can i just unhook it all and cap off vacume spots?
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Post by type4revolution on Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:23 pm

Leave smog Alone if its worken
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Post by MRJEL on Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:32 pm

runabout199 wrote:thanks got it running so far so good:)  for the bad the front end is shaking violently.. Sad  any clue on that.  
What kind of tire pressures are you running? Don't need much in front. 18 psi if stock, pretty much same with aftermarket wheels. Pressure too high can make it "squirrely."

Jack up front end and check for worn tie rods and ball joints. May just be a bad steering damper.

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Post by runabout199 on Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:33 pm

MRJEL wrote:
runabout199 wrote:thanks got it running so far so good:)  for the bad the front end is shaking violently.. Sad  any clue on that.  
What kind of tire pressures are you running? Don't need much in front. 18 psi if stock, pretty much same with aftermarket wheels. Pressure too high can make it "squirrely."

Jack up front end and check for worn tie rods and ball joints. May just be a bad steering damper.
jacked it up and tie rod ends are loooooose hehe will be replacing those soon thanks for the info
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Post by type4revolution on Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:58 pm

Sounds like for safety sake you might want to have a Vw mechanic give that car a good once over before it kills ya
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Post by runabout199 on Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:55 pm

type4revolution wrote:Sounds like for safety sake you might want to have a Vw mechanic give that car a good once over before it kills ya
lol!  yea i figured out it was tie rod ends on the front end shaking. they will be here tomorrow Very Happy  i would love for someone to look at it after i get them replaced, really would pay someone to show me how to do a correct tune up and time the thing. right now it wont run long enough to get it somewhere. if it did im afraid i wont make it home hehe. when it gets warmed up it does not want to start back up hehe. i didnt have my first bug long enough to learn how to do all that. i will be bringing it somewhere to get it looked at to make sure its safe and alls up to par because my wife and kids will be in it alot. with money kinda tight right now im stuck being my own mechanic, which has been fun so far. when taxes come back i plan on buying a new motor and trans to put in her so im just hoping i can make what i got run till then bom 
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Post by HeyRobi on Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:46 pm

runabout199 wrote:
type4revolution wrote:Sounds like for safety sake you might want to have a Vw mechanic give that car a good once over before it kills ya
lol!   yea i figured out it was tie rod ends on the front end shaking. they will be here tomorrow Very Happy   i would love for someone to look at it after i get them replaced, really would pay someone to show me how to do a correct tune up and time the thing. right now it wont run long enough to get it somewhere. if it did im afraid i wont make it home hehe. when it gets warmed up it does not want to start back up hehe. i didnt have my first bug long enough to learn how to do all that. i will be bringing it somewhere to get it looked at to make sure its safe and alls up to par because my wife and kids will be in it alot. with money kinda tight right now im stuck being my own mechanic, which has been fun so far. when taxes come back i plan on buying a new motor and trans to put in her so im just hoping i can make what i got run till then bom 

Hey I have a timing light and can help ya. Get the parts and I can help ya get it tuned up. Or we can get together and go get the parts.
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Post by Foamermetal on Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:16 am

http://forum.georgiadubs.com/t8568-bugs4christ-open-house Put a tow bar on that bug and bring it to Gray. Guaranteed you'll go home knowing more about maintaining that bug.
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