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Post by bakertim2 on Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:00 pm

I am working on restoring a 58 Beetle for a guy. He asked me tonight if I could put cruise control on it. He is elder and is currently recovering fron knee surgery and he has Parkensons disease. He has trouble holding the pedal steady. Does anyone know of anything available?
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Re: cruise control

Post by Bugman114 on Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:02 pm

i've always thought about doing something like that. i have a 95 gmc safari van at home, and was looking at the cruise control motor, and it looks like it might be pretty easy to make it work.

personally tho, i like to use my flip flops. the pair i have works perfect. when im on the highway, i can simplypush down on the gas, get my foot out, and it stays there. the flip flop is just wide enough so it holds the pedal down, but just narrow enough, so it won't get stuck. i bought them at wal-mart, in case you wanted to try it, Laughing
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Re: cruise control

Post by Grifspop on Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:05 pm

Most cruise controls produced now tap in to the car's ecm module, I don't think a 1958 Beetle has one. He might be able to get a universal kit from the street rod guys.
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Post by meinvw on Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:49 am

Tell him to look at maybe a hand control like used on conversions for handicapped vans. You would have to totally design one from scratch to use on the bug if going electronic.
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Post by DOODLE BUGG on Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:07 am

you could hook up lie a throttle were he still can use the pedle or like the heater control in a bug or ghia the only problem would be you would have to remember to push it back down when you are stoping
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Re: cruise control

Post by Grifspop on Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:12 am

A modern cruise control speeds up and slows down the car on hills, and clicks off with the brake to keep you from hitting the car in front of you. The flip flop/ wood stick method isn't the safest out there.
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Re: cruise control

Post by bakertim2 on Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:53 am

I was thinking that a vacuum type, with a chain that pulls the throttle open when it stsrts up a hill and the spring would close it again, would work. The lever method would somewhat work, but wouldn't change for hills. The problem I haven't worked out, is the way it would cut off when the brakes or clutch is depressed.
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Re: cruise control

Post by vwtattooed on Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:55 am

i worked at a stereo shop and we installed many cruise controls modules on many vehicles...it can be done on a bug! Rostra makes a universal kit that is easy to install. it uses a sensor that attaches to the driveshaft of most vehicles and sends a signal to a box mounted in the engine bay that has an actuator arm which controls the throttle.the only mod really needed for this kit is a mount for the sensor, it bolts to the c.v. axle flange to relocate the sensor as a v.w. axle is not big enough around.i think i remember seeing a mount like this in Hot V.W's a couple months back...they were using it for speed sending units for speedometers, this is the same thing as cruise control!
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Re: cruise control

Post by bakertim2 on Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:21 pm

I'll have to check in to that. The only problem with that kit would be the car is a swingaxle car, so no access to the axle.
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Re: cruise control

Post by vwtattooed on Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:35 pm

it will still work...you will just have to make your own bracket. the sensor counts revolutions...i am almost positive it is programable. just check out their website...the company name is Rostra electronics.
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Re: cruise control

Post by bakertim2 on Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:24 pm

On the swingaxle trans, the axle is not exposed, therefore there is no point of mounting a magnet to it for a sensor to read. Any ideas?
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Re: cruise control

Post by zabo on Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:36 pm

a guy in this thread says he did it.
Of course he doesnt say where he got it. - maybe PM him.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=132849
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Re: cruise control

Post by bakertim2 on Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:14 pm

Cool Zabo, thanks for the link. I posted a reply, so I'll let you know what he says.
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Re: cruise control

Post by Bugman114 on Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:21 pm

i don't think your gonna get a reply, as that guys last login, was over a year ago (jan 1009).
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Re: cruise control

Post by bakertim2 on Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:53 pm

I did get a reply. The Rostra and the Audiovox are two units that can be used. Again the problem I still have is both of these units still require magnets that mount to the cv joint. I want to put one on a swingaxle car.
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Re: cruise control

Post by Bugman114 on Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:51 pm

i wonder if it would be possibly to utilize a speed sensor , and speed sensor ring found on most modern cars, and somehow moung the ring on the inside of the drum, and the sensor on the backingplate? seems like it might work in theory, but you know how that goes, Laughing
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Re: cruise control

Post by bakertim2 on Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:38 pm

Yeah, I thought about that as well. I did read somewhere, that there was sensor that went in the speedo cable. That would be perfect.
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Re: cruise control

Post by DiggerD on Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:44 pm

Here are some new developments on the pursuit of some type of cruise control for a VW application. (Taken from a thread on the samba)

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=402334

Interesting stuff.........
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