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Re: Hello check out my 59 with suicide doors

Post by bakertim2 on Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:48 pm

I'm going to guess a 2180
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Re: Hello check out my 59 with suicide doors

Post by Bugman114 on Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:24 am

i guess 2110
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Re: Hello check out my 59 with suicide doors

Post by rpm750 on Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:43 am

I'll say 1776!
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Re: Hello check out my 59 with suicide doors

Post by 59suicide on Mon May 25, 2009 6:09 pm

How hard should it be to turn my engine over by hand with all new internal parts? I can only turn it by the flywheel with a little grunting or the pulley nut. I used lucas assembly lube on everything except cam lobes and lifters i used molly grease for that. That lucas lube is a little thick and sticky.
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Re: Hello check out my 59 with suicide doors

Post by rpm750 on Mon May 25, 2009 7:18 pm

Should be easier than that! Did the pins go into the holes of the Bearings? You know the pins on the mains. I'd double check everything again! Shocked
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Re: Hello check out my 59 with suicide doors

Post by racecar67 on Mon May 25, 2009 8:35 pm

2187 Cool
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Re: Hello check out my 59 with suicide doors

Post by 59suicide on Mon May 25, 2009 8:52 pm

rpm750 wrote:Should be easier than that! Did the pins go into the holes of the Bearings? You know the pins on the mains. I'd double check everything again! Shocked

Yea the pins are in defiantly in there was really meticulous on that, I have split this case well over 8 or 9 times just being nervous about every little thing, But I think Im going to pull it all apart again even though its sealed up because I have to wait till friday for pushrods, I really do think its the assembly lube i used though that stuff is sticky. I am going to use my break in oil and lube everything with that instead of the lucas. I might just be anxious because its my first build on a vw engine.
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Re: Hello check out my 59 with suicide doors

Post by vwovalchild on Mon May 25, 2009 9:09 pm

Hey man its not the lube. Trust me.

Its either your lifters are too thick or you have pinched your bearings. What kind of lifters did you use and what cam?

Still got to get the other pcs of plastic from you for the motorcycle. Got it running by the way.
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Re: Hello check out my 59 with suicide doors

Post by 59suicide on Mon May 25, 2009 9:11 pm

votwing wrote:Hey man its not the lube. Trust me.

Its either your lifters are too thick or you have pinched your bearings. What kind of lifters did you use and what cam?

Engle 120 and scat lifters, I had steve from proflow match these parts for me. I can turn it with the flywheel and the engine will rock a little then turn, could it be a cam bearing? I had to drill and tap the rear studs for the cam seal an put an insert in there and that might have made that area a little uneven. Oh and I dont have the push rods in yet
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Re: Hello check out my 59 with suicide doors

Post by vwovalchild on Mon May 25, 2009 9:19 pm

what kind of cam seal are you speaking of ?

It should be smooth all the way around in rotation.

How did you make sure you didnot pinch the main brgs.
This is the #1 thing 1st timers do. Believe me I have done it and learned a trick.
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Re: Hello check out my 59 with suicide doors

Post by 59suicide on Mon May 25, 2009 9:25 pm

I lifeted up on the crank and spun the bearings until I felt them seat then made sure there was no space in between the bearing and the case, I know if i pinched one it wouldnt spin at all it feels the same all the way around just tight. for the cam the rear cup in the front of the engine behind the flywheel is the two studs that seat that bearing pulled out when I was doing an initial torque of 8 ft lbs one of the studs is the one your supposed to tighten first.
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Re: Hello check out my 59 with suicide doors

Post by vwovalchild on Mon May 25, 2009 9:32 pm

Gotcha on the stud. I know the one. that should not make it tight. what stroke are u using?
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Re: Hello check out my 59 with suicide doors

Post by 59suicide on Fri May 29, 2009 4:49 pm

problem solved... not enough end play, I was in the middle of taking it apart again checking everything as i took it off and when the flywheel came off it loosened up real nice, so I have to redo the end play, I'm using an actual end play tool this time instead of a bolt on a feeler gauge tool Laughing good thing I dont have to split the case like i thought... well maybe, I dropped a head nut in the push rod tube and listened to it travel on down into the oil pan, but i should be able to fish it out of there with my magnet Rolling Eyes
Man was i wrong about building a aircooled engine, I thought i would be putting around town by now... brrrnt WRONG Laughing
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Re: Hello check out my 59 with suicide doors

Post by Bugman114 on Sat May 30, 2009 11:14 pm

OMG, I'm soo glad i read this post!!!

I blew up my motor yesterday, and built one this morning. I am almoist done, but all i got to do is bolt on the turbo and carb, and go. BUT while i was installing one of the pistons, i popped a circlip inside the case. I COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT IT TILL I READ YOUR POST, lol. I'm so glad i decided to check this post, before i had to build a third motor, lol.
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Re: Hello check out my 59 with suicide doors

Post by 59suicide on Sun May 31, 2009 4:29 pm

Bugman114 wrote:OMG, I'm soo glad i read this post!!!

I blew up my motor yesterday, and built one this morning. I am almoist done, but all i got to do is bolt on the turbo and carb, and go. BUT while i was installing one of the pistons, i popped a circlip inside the case. I COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT IT TILL I READ YOUR POST, lol. I'm so glad i decided to check this post, before i had to build a third motor, lol.

I accually did drop a circlip in this one earlier on was lucky enough to be able to fish that out with my magnet Laughing third times a charm, what compression ratio you going with with that turbo?
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Re: Hello check out my 59 with suicide doors

Post by Bugman114 on Sun May 31, 2009 9:26 pm

I was at about 7.5, but this time i decided to go with closer to 8, just to squeeze out a bit more power. Also While i was tearing down the old motor, i discovered i had a bad exhaust leak (the metal gasket had a 1 inch chunk ripped out Shocked , now thats some pressure, lol ), and also a bad intake leak at one of the end castings. So I'm expecting to at least have more power, and hopefully better response, and less lag, assuming the spare block i had lying around is any good pale . I'll prolly be finished 2morrow. we''ll find out then, lol.
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Re: Hello check out my 59 with suicide doors

Post by 59suicide on Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:08 pm

Made some major steps today, should be bolting the engine in Wednesday and have Toby on the road this weekend Twisted Evil here are some pics of the progress.

Gonna turn this heap into Tobys Muscle


Case all torqued and ready for the P&C's


Cylinders and Eight Teflon buttons waiting


Heads on and torqued


Tin fits after some cutting to fit around the full flow


Just mocking up everything before I fasten it all down


Cant wait to suff this baby in there :Rockit:
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Re: Hello check out my 59 with suicide doors

Post by 59suicide on Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:37 pm

Got the engine bolted in last night, hope to be breaking it in this weekend Shocked Its finally time Twisted Evil Some pics



It Fits


I like the look
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Re: Hello check out my 59 with suicide doors

Post by rpm750 on Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:08 pm

So who got the displacement correct?
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Re: Hello check out my 59 with suicide doors

Post by bumblebuggy on Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:05 pm

It'll run cooler with a genrator belt. Laughing
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Re: Hello check out my 59 with suicide doors

Post by Attorney Isaiah Loophole on Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:07 pm

bumblebuggy wrote:It'll run cooler with a genrator belt. Laughing
I was just wandering how well it was going to do with only one side of the motor getting fuel....hahaha Laughing

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Re: Hello check out my 59 with suicide doors

Post by 59suicide on Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:14 pm

Attorney Isaiah Loophole wrote:
bumblebuggy wrote:It'll run cooler with a genrator belt. Laughing
I was just wandering how well it was going to do with only one side of the motor getting fuel....hahaha Laughing

Thanks for the comments guys Laughing

engine is ready for oil prime and then im gonna hook the throttle linkage up and get it ready for break in

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Re: Hello check out my 59 with suicide doors

Post by Attorney Isaiah Loophole on Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:38 pm

Looking good hope it runs like a top for ya!

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Re: Hello check out my 59 with suicide doors

Post by Damn-it Don on Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:51 pm

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Attorney Isaiah Loophole wrote:
bumblebuggy wrote:It'll run cooler with a genrator belt. Laughing
I was just wandering how well it was going to do with only one side of the motor getting fuel....hahaha Laughing

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Re: Hello check out my 59 with suicide doors

Post by Bugman114 on Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:57 pm

bumblebuggy wrote:It'll run cooler with a genrator belt. Laughing
Dude, thats clearly an alternator. Everyone knows you can't use a generator belt on an alternator lol!
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